Barbeque heat engine driving a generator-12V deep cycle battery-grill motor

1 Posts
Aug 22, 2007 11:59 pm
Barbeque heat engine driving a generator-12V deep cycle battery-grill motor

I want to drive a small 12vDC generator from a heat engine attached to a barbarque grill.  The generator will maintain the charge in a 12v deepcycle battery, which will provide 120V AC (through an 800W modified sine inverter) to the single use, the grill motor that runs the fuel auger intermittently.  I seek a 12vdc generator physically able to fit in a campbells soup can and generate 12Vdc at low rpm.  Please tell me where I can find that generator.
Don
 
163 Posts
Aug 23, 2007 10:45 am
Re: Barbeque heat engine driving a generator-12V deep cycle battery-grill motor

Don,

You might try contacting the folks in the Engineering Department at Purdue University who run the Rube Goldberg contest as it sounds like something they would be interested in. But seriously, since no device is capable of achieving 100% energy efficiency, why don't you look to see if there is some other way of more directly applying your energy source to where you would like to use it rather than suffering losses from each consecutive device you pass it through?

John
 
30 Posts
Aug 24, 2007 01:35 pm
Re: Barbeque heat engine driving a generator-12V deep cycle battery-grill motor

John - I had the same first reaction. Then I read that Don indicated that he only wanted to run the fuel auger intermittently. So it's not a perpetual motion machine after all!  However, the conversion of heat directly to electricity is tough. DARPA has been sponsoring development of high density, high output (this is a relative term) Peltier effect device that responds to high levels of infrared heat and produces usable output (mA, vs. the micro or femto amps that you get from standard IR sensors, for example).  Can't buy anything like that yet.  Possibly a small closed cycle engine that uses some of the heat from the fire pit..... and can fit in a soup can and produce usable output current. Actually, this type of device might have significant commercial application if it could be developed. Not sure from the original post if Don has some kind of heat engine and is just looking for the DC generator.

Tom Hardy, PE
HVTA, Inc.
Allenstown, NH
 

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