parallel panels via their junction boxes

Posted by James Johnson on August 23, 2009, 01:54:51 PM

Re: parallel panels via their junction boxes (Reply #5)
I have wondered about the 6amp fuse rating as well...seems to be a bit high given that 2.65 x 1.56 = 4.134

perhaps it's because 5amp DC breakers are hard to come by and 6amps are not?..just thinking out loud

thanks for all the info in this thread guys

 

Posted by James Cormican on August 23, 2009, 02:04:50 PM

Re: parallel panels via their junction boxes (Reply #6)
so to james,

yes, that is one choice.  if you plan on doubling your array, there is another choice.  switch to an mppt controller that can down convert voltages, (flexmax 60, others ...) and then you can leave each series string of up to 4 (maybe 5) modules on one overcurrent protection breaker.  if you took your current array of 3 kyo 40, and wired them in series instead, you would have that one string feed one 6a breaker in your combiner.  your pv disconnect would be 6a, however, the charge controller disconnect would be at minimum 20a, because by down converting voltage 3 to 1 ratio, your current would go up by that same ratio.

if you went this way, you would leave the combiner box, but have the ability to have your current 3 modules, or 4 modules (1 string of 4 in series), or you could double your array as proposed with 2 strings (in parallel each with ocpd in combiner) of three in series.

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for mr. schmidt, it is important to remember that in a battery based system, it is not only other strings of modules that can be problematic in fault or component failure situations.  the battery bank has the capability of backfeeding, and the ocpd based on max series fuse size, protects the modules, as well as the system and potentially building from all the unpleasant (though less than likely) happenings.  whenever i reply to posts i do my best to highlight the "should" possibility rather than the "could" possibility.  thanks for your posts on this one



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Posted by James Cormican on August 23, 2009, 02:12:03 PM

Re: parallel panels via their junction boxes (Reply #7)
regarding the choice of max series fuse size, it has to do with what the internal wiring of the module can handle.  there are numerous examples of modules from back in the day that had 15 or 20a series fuse sizes even though they were 50w. 

off the top of my head, sanyo ba3 and ba19 modules have 15a series fuse sizes even though the isc is below 4a.

so i looked at some old bp 40w modules we had, and sure enough 20a series fuse size. 

these modules could handle higher current so they math sometimes worked that you could cram two strings on one ocpd.  this is very rarely the case anymore, with the sanyo being the only one i can think of; and even the sanyo's dont quite make it for the math with two strings in parallel on one ocpd.

kaneka! they can do it too 7a series fuse, about 1a isc

i need to walk away from the computer . . .; back to class prep for next week.

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Posted by Thomas Allen Schmidt on August 23, 2009, 02:53:54 PM

Re: parallel panels via their junction boxes (Reply #8)
http://www.nvenergy.com/renewablesenvironment/renewablegenerations/documents/Tab-2NABCEPStudyGuide.pdf
Page 20 paragraph 3.5.1
But this does not take into consideration the manufactures assessment of its own PV modules to withstand more than the series fuse rating printed on the module label. Engineers are always a bit conservative, at least on paper. If I were to try 2 - KC40T's in parallel on 1 - 6 amp fuse, I would insure that both the pos. and neg. leads from each to a j-box where they are spliced into one set of pos. and neg. were exactly the same length. Of course there is a good possibility that I might be voiding any expressed warranties offered by the manufacture.

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